Word On The Street Is…Sigh.

No team dual state — yet. Will it ever happen? No one’s sure. I have word on it that among the movers and shakers in Gainesville on this point, the committees were split on this point.

This is an idea whose time has long since arrived. Seriously guys. How can more wrestling ever be less of a good thing than less wrestling?

I have to say, I don’t particularly like the Georgia model, I don’t think a state-level event should be held with a month of regular season still to go.

I talk about Illinois and Iowa all the time — what can I say? It’s where I covered wrestling the longest and I think they do almost all of the right things. Even if you incorporate one or the other of their models, you can still hold your individual district meets whenever you do — next year’s districts are scheduled for conclusion by February 18.

In Iowa, dual team events are then held mid-week between districts and regions (this is for that state’s 1A and 2A classes, 3A’s district is the following weekend while 1A/2A host regions, with states the weekend after that). In 1A/2A, the top two teams in each sectional (Iowa’s version of district-level competition) meet at a neutral site, with eight teams advancing out. Iowa has eight districts (this is what they call regions) in 3A, the district champ automatically qualifies out for team dual state. State week is a four-day event, with Wednesday being the dual team tournament (I’m not a fan, I think it should be the following week so as to discourage teams from holding their elite individuals out as a way to preserve them from injury) and then Thursday through Saturday being the individual tournament (they run 8 mats, but only one class at a time — which I would love, because it makes covering it somewhat easier than the 12-mat, all-classes-going-all-at-once thing that Florida does).

In Illinois, they wrestle the entirety of the individual state tournament series much like Florida does. Then, the Tuesday (or Wednesday, this could have changed) after individual states is over, the four regional champions that feed into a given sectional (Illinois’ version of districts and regions) meet at a neutral site for team dual sectionals. Only one match win is required to get to team dual states, which are the weekend after individual states, in a different location. I love the Illinois model (the Iowa model used to do it this way) because it extends the season another week, which — in my opinion, however wrong that may be — is good for the sport here.

I think the team dual state concept is doomed to fail as long as the Georgia model is the only one considered, unless those Gainesville movers and shakers set a date far enough in the future (say, 2018-19) and lay all the details out about how it’s all going to go NOW or at least before the season begins. If they keep trying to do it in the offseason of a given year, for the following season, it will never work. Too many teams have already locked in their schedules or at least their key dates, and for those event hosts, that’s potentially a good chunk of cheddar on the table.

Figure it out, Gainesville. Shoot me an email if you want my input — but there are some very smart wrestling coaches out there that are smarter than me about this stuff.


I covered wrestling for 15 years up north and "retired" in 2011. But as I thought I had in 1992, I couldn't stay away. Started Northeast Florida Matmen in 2013, Northwest Florida Matmen in 2015. New initiative this year is to create a space on my sites where ALL Florida results can be stored, searched, reviewed and used by my readers, with NO COST TO THEM.

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One comment on “Word On The Street Is…Sigh.
  1. Curt Lear says:

    Excellent information and details. Great comparisons. I feel Florida needs a dual team State Tournament also. It would be a great addition to FHSAA wrestling- if planned and executed well. Once again, thank you for all that you do for the sport and the young men who wrestle!

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